The short answer: the big number is a size, and it is not inches. A No. 8 skillet measures 10.625 inches across the top. A No. 10 measures 11.75. A No. 5 measures 8 inches — so the pan whose number happens to match its diameter is the No. 5, which is exactly the sort of coincidence that keeps the misunderstanding alive. If there is a second, usually smaller number, that is a pattern number identifying the mould, and any letter beside it distinguishes one mould of that pattern from another.
This matters for money. Buy a “No. 8” expecting an 8-inch pan and you will get something a touch larger than a classic 10.25-inch Lodge. Buy a “No. 10” and you are closer to a modern 12-inch, at nearly twelve inches of rim — a pan that will overhang most home burners.
The measured size chart
These figures come from the skillet and dutch oven size chart that the Wagner and Griswold Society links from its own educational resources page. They are measurements of real pans rather than a nominal standard, which is why they are not round numbers.
Skillets
- No. 3 — 6.5 in top, 5.25 in bottom, 1.25 in deep
- No. 4 — 7 in top, 5.75 in bottom, 1.5 in deep
- No. 5 — 8 in top, 6.75 in bottom, 1.75 in deep
- No. 6 — 9.125 in top, 7.5 in bottom, 1.875 in deep
- No. 7 — 9.875 in top, 8.25 in bottom, 2 in deep
- No. 8 — 10.625 in top, 8.875 in bottom, 2 in deep
- No. 9 — 11.375 in top, 9.5 in bottom, 2 in deep
- No. 10 — 11.75 in top, 10 in bottom, 2.125 in deep
- No. 11 — 12.5 in top, 10.875 in bottom, 2.125 in deep
- No. 12 — 13.375 in top, 11.75 in bottom, 2.25 in deep
- No. 13 — 14.25 in top, 12.75 in bottom, 2.25 in deep
- No. 14 — 15.25 in top, 13.5 in bottom, 2.25 in deep
Dutch ovens
- No. 6 — 8.25 in top, 3.625 in deep, 2.5 qt
- No. 7 — 9.25 in top, 3.75 in deep, 3.5 qt
- No. 8 — 10.125 in top, 4 in deep, 4.5 qt
- No. 9 — 11.25 in top, 4.25 in deep, 6 qt
- No. 10 — 12.25 in top, 4.875 in deep, 8 qt
- No. 11 — 13.25 in top, 6 in deep, 12 qt
- No. 12 — 14.25 in top, 7 in deep, 15 qt
- No. 13 — 15.25 in top, 8 in deep, 20.5 qt
Two things to notice. The skillet and pot tables do not agree at the same number— a No. 8 skillet is 10.625 inches and a No. 8 pot is 10.125 — so you cannot carry a number between categories. And capacity in the pot table climbs far faster than diameter, because the pots get deeper as well as wider: a No. 9 at 6 quarts becomes a No. 11 at 12 quarts over two inches of rim.
Where the numbers came from, and what we will not claim
The story you will read everywhere is that the numbers correspond to the diameter of the round openings — the “eyes” or holes — in the tops of wood and coal ranges, into which cookware was dropped so that it sat in direct contact with the fire. That is consistent with the bottom diameters in the chart above, and with the existence of heat rings, which raised a pan slightly on a stove of that era.
We are going to stop short of asserting it as fact, because we cannot cite it properly. The size chart the collectors’ society links is tables only — it publishes no explanation of what the numbers represent. The society’s own FAQ explains pattern numbers and defines heat rings but does not explain the origin of the size numbers. So: a widely repeated, entirely plausible account, which we have not been able to source to a publishing authority. If you want the definitive answer, the society’s educational page points at a reference-book list, and the collector literature is where it will be settled.
Pattern numbers and letters
The second number does a different job entirely. In the society’s own words: “Each piece of iron has to have its own mold… each pattern has a different letter… after the pattern number which would be the same number for like items.”
Unpacked: identical items share a pattern number, and individual moulds of that pattern are distinguished by a letter. That is why two apparently identical pans can show the same number with different letters, and why collectors care about letter variations that mean nothing at all to a cook. For Griswold specifically, the society’s dated chart notes that the third ERIE series, around 1892 to 1905, was the first with pattern numbers— which makes the presence or absence of a pattern number itself a dating clue on that brand.
The system is still alive
The surprising part is how much of this survives in pans sold new today. Field Company sells its skillets as numbers — the No. 8 is a 10.25-inch pan with a published 8.75-inch cooking surface. Lancaster sells a No. 10 that measures 11.6 inches across, which is within a sixth of an inch of the century-old chart figure of 11.75 for a No. 10. Those makers are deliberately picking up a convention their customers recognise.
Lodge went the other way and sells in inches — 3.5, 5, 6.5, 8, 10.25, 12, 13.25, 15 — which is why nobody has ever been confused by a Lodge box and everybody is confused by a flea-market pan. If you own both, it is worth internalising one conversion: a vintage No. 8 sits between a modern 10.25 and a modern 12.